upghost 3 hours ago

Wow, it is really interesting the difference in comments between ALife and AI stories on HN.

For some of you out there, there's a great book that really hasn't gotten enough attention called "The Self-Assembling Brain" [1] that explores intelligence (artificial or otherwise) from the perspectives of AI, ALife, robotics, genetics, and neuroscience.

I hadn't realized the divide was a sharp as it is until I saw the difference in comments. i.e. this one[2] about GPT-5 has over 1000 comments of emotional intensity while comments on OP story are significantly less "intense".

The thing is, if you compare the fields, you would quickly realize that which we call AI has very little in common which intelligence. It can't even habituate to stimuli. A little more cross disciplinary study would help is get better AI sooner.

Happy this story made it to the front page.

[1]: https://a.co/d/hF2UJKF

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42485938

j0hnb 17 minutes ago

Before I read the article all I could think about was what if AI was used with SETI's data, would we find something there?

  • rrr_oh_man 10 minutes ago

    What has prompted you to comment, after almost 10 years?

mvkel 10 hours ago

Fun fact: Sakana AI is founded by some of the authors of the original transformer paper, "Attention Is All You Need"

  • sourcepluck 7 hours ago

    Where's the fun part? I can't exactly imagine throwing this out as an anecdote to entertain a few friends during a sophisticated little soiree.

    • jazzyjackson 5 hours ago

      Some people have a low bar for fun, for example, learning something new that connects to something they already knew, and saying to themselves, "Neat!"

    • vintagedave 5 hours ago

      No need to poke fun. I found it interesting. Among friends who are interested in AI it’s the kind of random fact you’d throw into conversation.

hamburga 10 hours ago

I actually found artificial life. Crocs. They keep on reproducing effectively and walking around (symbiotically with humans), with some mutation though the polysexual recombination process of Product Manager design reviews.

  • vintermann an hour ago

    I think that it's a bit silly to call something life just because it resembles stuff you see under a microscope.

    But I can't deny that it's beautiful. Unlike crocs.

ribadeo 7 hours ago

The name of this company has real meaning in Português which I reckon is unintended.

  • jazzyjackson 4 hours ago

    I mean it's Japanese for Fish, but yeah, perhaps we need a database of false cognates sorted by number-of-languages-that-consider-it-vulgar

    As for Portuguese, GPTo3 tells me "depending on context it can mean “bastard,” “scumbag,” “dirty-minded jerk,” or imply that someone is a lecherous creep. It’s essentially an insult calling someone sleazy or untrustworthy."

    Would you say that's about right?

nextworddev 7 hours ago

Curious - what’s the intended product direction of Sakana AI? Is it mainly a research lab or is it doing commercialization?

theGnuMe 6 hours ago

Are these cellular automata or Something more?

wintercarver 12 hours ago

Congrats David & the whole team! Really enjoy everything Sakana AI produces and always look forward to your research results.